melissa: talk to me about the debt ceiling debate. i feel like he haven't even really a part of that. >> he get as d there and i'll tell you why. the treasury's responsibility really is to have a contingency plan. this is a guy who steered the economy through all of these financial crisis. you know, you ought to have some kind of plan in place for dealing with the moment when we might hit the debt crisis. an inspector general looked at this last year and discovered that the treasury never put in place a contingency plan for, you know, what would happen if congress never got around to raising the debt ceiling. melissa: yeah. >> for lack of planning, they get a low-grade on that one. melissa: you give them a d. >> yeah. melissa: what do you think he will do next? if it were me after six-month vacation in the bahamas then i would start thinking what i want to do. >> i think he might need more than six months in the bahamas. melissa: it has been a tough run. >> it is interesting. he did an interview with "politico" today and ruled out tak